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epiCRealism - Natural Sin RC1 VAE

epinikion
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8/4/2025
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Close-up of a split coconut with water splashing out, set on a sandy beach with palm leaves and turquoise ocean in the background under a bright sun flare.
Front view of a luxury emerald green SUV with illuminated aggressive headlights and large front grill, parked on wet ground with raindrops, forest background under cloudy sky.
Potted olive tree with green leaves in a simple round cream colored pot on a wooden surface against a plain light background
Smiling Asian teen girl wearing rectangle glasses and a striped prison jumpsuit with handcuffs and a belt, in a courtroom setting.
A lone figure walking on a wooden pathway through a dark, foggy landscape under a starry night sky with the Milky Way visible and an eerie atmosphere.
Young brunette woman dressed as a nun wearing black off-shoulder clothing and a cross necklace standing inside a church with stained-glass windows in the background.
Young woman in casual white long-sleeve shirt and denim shorts standing indoors leaning against a wooden door, hands in pockets, looking at the camera with natural expression.
AI generated image of a miniature garden terrarium in a glass globe using Stable Diffusion.
Wizard warrior in long robe holding a torch and standing in a vast desert landscape under a clear sky, AI generated using Stable Diffusion.
Dark, menacing Joker character with distinctive clown makeup and a sinister smile. AI generated image using Stable Diffusion.

Recommended Prompts

simple explanation of the image

Recommended Negative Prompts

cartoon,painting,illustration,(worst quality, low quality, normal quality:2),asian,chinese

Recommended Parameters

samplers

SDE, DPM-Sampler, 2M Karras Sampler, Any Sampler, DPM++ 2M SDE Karras, DPM++ SDE, Restart, DPM++ 2M Karras, DPM++ SDE Karras

steps

20 - 30

cfg

2 - 7

resolution

512x768, 768x512, 512x768, 640x960, 768x512

vae

vae-ft-mse-840000-ema-pruned.safetensors (735e4c3a44)

other models

epiCRealism-naturalSin (84a88972f9)

Recommended Hires (High-Resolution) Parameters

upscaler

4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G

upscale

1.5 - 2

steps

10 - 15

denoising strength

0.3 - 0.35

Tips

Use simple prompts without extra keywords for best results.

Avoid keywords like 'masterpiece, best quality, 8k, intricate, high detail' or '(extremely detailed face), (extremely detailed hands), (extremely detailed hair)' as they don't improve the output.

Use simple negatives or small negative embeddings for a more realistic look.

Add 'asian, chinese' to negative prompts to avoid Asian ethnicity when undesired.

Light, shadows, and details are excellent without extra keywords.

Avoid using 'cinematic' for a natural effect.

Avoid using '1girl' as it tends to push anime style rendering.

Too much face description often results in worse images.

For fantasy-like outputs, use the 2M Karras Sampler.

No extra noise-offset is needed but optional.

Version Highlights

Since i'm low on time i still wanted to release the RC1 of an new aproach.

  • ordinary faces, natural look, more face diversity

  • hand fix

VAE included

Recommended simple Negative for average looking output, avoid "optimizer" Embeddings

cartoon, cgi, render, illustration, painting, drawing

seems to be a bit nsfw heavy and very lose on prompt guidance for now

Creator Sponsors

Natural Sin Final and last of epiCRealism

Since SDXL is right around the corner, let's say it is the final version for now since I put a lot effort into it and probably cannot do much more.

I tried to refine the understanding of the Prompts, Hands and of course the Realism.
Let's see what you guys can do with it.

Thanks to @drawaline for the in-depth review, so i'd like to give some advices to use this model.
[expand to see Advices]

Advices

  • use simple prompts

  • no need to use keywords like "masterpiece, best quality, 8k, intricate, high detail" or "(extremely detailed face), (extremely detailed hands), (extremely detailed hair)" since it doesn't produce appreciable change

  • use simple negatives or small negative embeddings. gives most realistic look (check samples to get an idea of negatives i used)

  • add "asian, chinese" to negative if you're looking for ethnicities other than Asian

  • Light, shadows, and details are excellent without extra keywords

  • If you're looking for a natural effect, avoid "cinematic"

  • avoid using "1girl" since it pushes things to render/anime style

  • to much description of the face will turn out bad mostly

  • for a more fantasy like output use 2M Karras Sampler

  • no extra noise-offset needed, but u can if you like to 😉

How to use?

Prompt: simple explanation of the image (try first without extra keywords)
Negative: "cartoon, painting, illustration, (worst quality, low quality, normal quality:2)"
Steps: >20 (if image has errors or artefacts use higher Steps)
CFG Scale: 5 (higher config scale can lose realism, depends on prompt, sampler and Steps)
Sampler: Any Sampler (SDE, DPM-Sampler will result in more realism)
Size: 512x768 or 768x512
Hires upscaler: 4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G (Denoising: 0.35, Upscale: 2x)

Useful Extensions

!After Detailer | ControlNet | Agent Scheduler | Ultimate SD Upscale

⁉ No VAE needed but it is better to use one for more vibrant colors

⭐ Feel free to leave Reviews and Samples - and always have fun creating ❤

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Model Details

Model type

Checkpoint

Base model

SD 1.5

Model version

Natural Sin RC1 VAE

Model hash

84d76a0328

Creator

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Images by epiCRealism - Natural Sin RC1 VAE

Close-up of a split coconut with water splashing out, set on a sandy beach with palm leaves and turquoise ocean in the background under a bright sun flare.
Front view of a luxury emerald green SUV with illuminated aggressive headlights and large front grill, parked on wet ground with raindrops, forest background under cloudy sky.
Potted olive tree with green leaves in a simple round cream colored pot on a wooden surface against a plain light background
Smiling Asian teen girl wearing rectangle glasses and a striped prison jumpsuit with handcuffs and a belt, in a courtroom setting.
A lone figure walking on a wooden pathway through a dark, foggy landscape under a starry night sky with the Milky Way visible and an eerie atmosphere.
Young brunette woman dressed as a nun wearing black off-shoulder clothing and a cross necklace standing inside a church with stained-glass windows in the background.
Young woman in casual white long-sleeve shirt and denim shorts standing indoors leaning against a wooden door, hands in pockets, looking at the camera with natural expression.
AI generated image of a miniature garden terrarium in a glass globe using Stable Diffusion.
Wizard warrior in long robe holding a torch and standing in a vast desert landscape under a clear sky, AI generated using Stable Diffusion.
Dark, menacing Joker character with distinctive clown makeup and a sinister smile. AI generated image using Stable Diffusion.

analog Images

Low angle photo of a French bulldog standing on a wet asphalt street in New York City, with its reflection visible in a puddle and legs of an elegant man nearby during a foggy, rainy morning.
Close-up of a highly detailed robotic baby toy wearing pink armor and a helmet, featuring vintage analog film grain and faded kodachrome tones under a spotlight.
Person sitting in a desert field of yellow flowers holding a large yellow balloon against a clear blue sky.
A barefoot ethereal woman stands confidently wearing a white bodycon dress with a macabre skeleton print, photographed in a vintage analog style against a black background.
Black and white portrait of an Irish woman with strange hair blowing a bubble gum bubble, featuring Rembrandt lighting and a grainy, analog texture reminiscent of daguerreotype photography.
A monochrome, backlit portrait of a woman with long dark hair in a faded polaroid photo style, looking at the viewer in a dynamic pose with intricate details.
Low angle street photo of a French bulldog standing next to an elegant man's legs with the dog's reflection visible in a puddle on rainy asphalt in foggy New York.
High-resolution portrait of a woman with long auburn hair and bangs, wearing a denim jacket against a dark background, focusing on her eyes.
Close-up portrait of a young woman with auburn hair and blue eyes wearing a black blazer and white blouse, captured in a high-resolution studio photoshoot style with cinematic film stock effects.
Portrait of a young woman with blond hair and tan skin posing dynamically on a night city street with buildings and lights in the background

base model Images

Photorealistic scene of undead characters including zombies and skeletons walking through a spooky Halloween cemetery filled with glowing jack-o'-lantern pumpkins and desiccated trees in a dark, foggy atmosphere.

female Images

A white dragonborn female with red eyes and dragon horns, wearing an intricate robe and elaborate jewelry, standing in a stone balcony setting.
Portrait of a red dragonborn female with red scales, horns, and tail, wearing silver armor and pauldrons against a black background.
Milly, a female character with long brown hair and blue eyes, smiling with parted lips, wearing a collared shirt and brown pants with suspenders, seated on a couch indoors with desert landscape visible through the window.
Portrait of Milly, a female character with blue eyes and brown hair, wearing a green capelet, trench coat, and suspenders, standing in a desert landscape with sand dunes and ancient ruins.
A brown female dragonborn with dragon horns and braided hair standing in a sunlit wheat field, wearing a necklace, earrings, bracelets, and a detailed outfit, looking at the viewer with her hand raised.
Close-up stylized portrait of a female Will-o'-the-wisp with flowing caramel hair, captured in golden hour light, displaying an awe expression.
A female robot with white body and metal arms, glowing blue eyes, sitting on rubble in a ruined urban apocalypse cityscape under dark cloudy sky.
Futuristic cyborg girl with luminous neon white hair sitting cross-legged, viewed from below with mechanical limbs and glowing blue lighting in a dark cyberpunk city.
Rear view of an Egyptian female with white hair and red eyes kneeling in a desert under a large sun, wearing a white robe and Egyptian collar.
Portrait of a smiling woman with long red hair and blue eyes wearing a blue cloak with gold inlay outdoors.

photorealistic Images

Photorealistic half-body portrait of a male warrior wearing a torn black kimono with golden embroidery, holding a flaming katana with intense fire effects, standing before a blurred torii gate at sunset.
Close-up of a highly detailed futuristic supercar featuring sleek design and cinematic lighting with film grain effects and shallow depth of field.
Anthropomorphic bat with bright green eyes and red hair leaning over a carved wooden bowl filled with orange petals, set against a rustic stone fireplace with cinematic lighting.
Realistic grey shrike perched on a branch with glowing iridescent feathers under low-key lighting and chiaroscuro effects
Photorealistic cityscape featuring a tall skyscraper illuminated at night with surrounding buildings and a mountain silhouette on a vibrant green background, rendered with cinematic lighting and metallic details.
An astronaut in a white spacesuit walks cautiously through tall, ruined abandoned buildings on a dusty desert planet with smoke rising in the background.
A mixed media collage of a cybernetic man with wings and long slender legs filled with photorealistic cityscapes and neon cyberpunk elements in a cinematic style.

realism Images

A bearded man wearing a gray flat cap and ripped blue jeans sits on stone stairs in Paris, playing a black accordion with natural daylight illuminating the scene.
A highly detailed BlackT40k knight in heavy green and gold-accented armor holding a large ornate sword, with a flowing red cape and a winged emblem on the helmet.
An elegant woman in a black dress sits on a luxurious chair on a balcony overlooking a night cityscape, with a bright meteor shower in the sky and a glass of wine on the table.
A cute realistic goose smiling directly at the camera with one foot raised, standing in a flower-filled field under a blue sky with soft clouds.
An oil painting of a forsaken village with dilapidated houses covered in overgrown vines, a single vibrant sunflower stands in the foreground bathed in warm golden light during sunset.
A surreal portrayal of a person's face held by two hands, with one side showing a cracked skull and the other a distressed expression, all in dark, muted tones.
A highly detailed blue watercolor and line-art portrait of a female face with intricate patterns and a serene expression, featuring meditative designs and realism.
Glowing golden One Ring resting on a detailed Middle-earth map with cinematic dramatic lighting and shadows.
Photo of an old village at evening with traditional thatched-roof houses, green trees, and dramatic clouds reflected in a narrow water canal.